# PM 3.13 Upgrade Problems \[PickMaster 3\] **URL:** \ **Category:** PickMaster\ **Created:** [May 8, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://tech-community.robotics.abb.com/t/pm-3-13-upgrade-problems-pickmaster-3/1841 "2008-05-08T14:42:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![51Magnum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/e36b37/32.png) [@51Magnum](https://tech-community.robotics.abb.com/u/51Magnum)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://tech-community.robotics.abb.com/t/pm-3-13-upgrade-problems-pickmaster-3/1841/1 "2008-05-08T14:42:22Z")
We have an IRB340/IRC5 combination in our shop. Yesterday I tried to upgrade from PM 3.12 to 3.13. We had Robotware 5.07.5002 on the IRC5. After reading the release notes I did the following: 1. Installed PM3.13 without uninstalling PM3.12 (basically did an upgrade) 2. I ran the system without upgrading RW from 5.07.5002 to 5.10 Note: I received errors 4317 and I think 4318. 3. I uninstalled PM3.13 and reinstalled PM3.12. 4. I ran the system and everything worked fine, no errors. I did this a couple of times to convince myself that it is a difference between PM3.12 and PM3.13. 5. Loaded PM3.13 6. In RSO I backed up the IRC5. 7. I did a system build from the backup using RW5.10.1040. 8. I did a system restore. 9. Ran the system. Note: I get an error stating I have errors in my rapid code. It is not the typical error where it gives you the line number but a general error telling you to fix the code. Has anyone else encountered this problem? Shane ---
**Author:** ![Mats\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Mats\_W](https://tech-community.robotics.abb.com/u/Mats_W)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 6:15am UTC](https://tech-community.robotics.abb.com/t/pm-3-13-upgrade-problems-pickmaster-3/1841/2 "2008-05-12T06:15:20Z")
Did you ever try to uninstall PM3.12 before installing 3.13, which is said in the Release Notes? I didn’t catch the final, does it work now? ---
**Author:** ![51Magnum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/e36b37/32.png) [@51Magnum](https://tech-community.robotics.abb.com/u/51Magnum)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 2:30pm UTC](https://tech-community.robotics.abb.com/t/pm-3-13-upgrade-problems-pickmaster-3/1841/3 "2008-05-12T14:30:02Z")
I finally got everything working late last week. I must have missed the uninstall directive in the release notes. However, I never did uninstall it and everything is working now. The only way I could get the system to work properly was to install all the Robotware installs. This is what I did. 1. Verified the system worked, i.e. that I was able to pick and place objects with our demo. 2. In RSO I backed up the 5.07 system 3. Did a system build from that backup to RW5.08. Of course in the document “Migration Guide RW 5.05 - 5.10” I found that when going from 5.07 to 5.08 you have to change the I/O unit from DSQC652 to the old one DSQC328A. This was in the ppaeio1.cfg and ppaeio2.cfg files in RW5.08. 4. Did a system restore and verified the program worked on the demo. 5. Backed up the 5.08 system. 6. Did a system build from the 5.08 backup to 5.09. 7. From the migration document I changed the “NonCnvWOData” array from 8 to 25 elements. 8. Did a system restore and verified the system still worked. 9. Backed up the 5.09 system. 10. Did a system build from that backup to 5.10. 11. This time I did not need to change anything. 12. Did a system restore and verified everything worked. So I now have a system that has PM3.13 and RW5.10! What a lot of work that was. However, I learned a lot. Now on to my problem of why PM is locking up. ---
**Author:** ![51Magnum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/e36b37/32.png) [@51Magnum](https://tech-community.robotics.abb.com/u/51Magnum)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://tech-community.robotics.abb.com/t/pm-3-13-upgrade-problems-pickmaster-3/1841/4 "2008-05-12T14:31:56Z")
One more thing that I did go back and try. I tried to go straight from 5.07 to 5.10 and change the array and I/O unit. However, this did not work. I got the same error that I had rapid errors. Shane